Welcome back, everybody, to Religion on the Mind. The podcast, it's about psychology and religion.

Really, that's the most succinct way to say it. I am your host, Dr. Dan Koch. I'm a licensed therapist and occasional researcher in the psychology of religion.

And I liked the last study hall episode that I released.

That's what we decided to call it after I had recorded it.

So I didn't call it that at first, but I think that's a good name.

I am in the process of

studying for our big licensure exam to become a licensed psychologist. That's the sort of terminal,

final form of licensure in this very long career path that I decided to embark on in my early

30s, mid-30s. And it feels good. It's a shit

ton of work. It's so much studying. It is hard to describe how much studying it is compared to other

things I've done in my life. I won't try. I just will say, I like the idea of bringing you guys along for part of the ride.

So I'm going to do another one of these and maybe more of them. Last time we talked about some

nature-nurture type questions in developmental psychology. We're going to stay in developmental

today with some other topics.

And just a refresher, what I'm doing here is I'm sharing with you really kind of the basic consensus

understanding of a handful of issues, the type of thing that I am being required to memorize fresh,

whether or not I initially learned it in school.

So I'm explaining that.

But then I'm going the additional step, which is what makes it appropriate for this podcast,

which is I'm looking for ways that that has been studied or correlated or put into conversation

with religion. Psychology into conversation with religion.

Psychology of religion or religious and spiritual practice,

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