Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist,

Joy Wolfman.

I forgot to do the show open, but welcome everyone.

Welcome to Surviving the Survivor.

The podcast that brings you the best guess in all of true crime.

Usually Joel Waldman is the host.

He is an Emmy Award winning journalist.

But on Tuesdays, we do a very casual conversational Tuesday

takeover. And for those of you who don't know me my name is

Iliana here at SDS surviving the survivor I'm also known as the COE and that stands for

the chief of everything.

I run a lot of the things here.

Behind the scenes, I'm also married to the host, Joel Waldman.

We have three little kids and two wild pups.

So if you hear the dogs barking in the background,

which you might,

and I know I get some complaints about that, I apologize in advance.

So I just wanted to say hello to everyone. Thank you, STS Nation for being here.

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