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Next week, our episode is looking at Living With Chronic Illness.

I talk with former professional rock climber, Mason Earl, about his chronic fatigue syndrome

or MECFS in a series of phone calls while he laid in bed.

When life is just sort of going your way at every single turn, you start to think, oh,

gosh, you know, I'm in control here.

And that's just not the case.

I can't wait to share this story with you next week.

Today's episode is a special one that we made along with our friends at the Cut Podcast

from New York Magazine.

Enjoy.

Man, this feels like therapy.

I know.

How do we start?

But it's more complicated than therapy because it's unclear who's in charge.

It's unclear who's the confessor and who's the question asker.

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