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Stressed About The World? Take A Cue From Cyanobacteria

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Natural Sciences, Wnyc, Science, Friday, Life Sciences

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🗓️ 10 February 2026

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

In turbulent times, it helps to hear stories of resilience. What can we learn from 3.5 billion-year-old bacteria that eat light?

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Flora Lichtenen and you're listening to Science Friday.

0:07.0

If you're feeling stressed about the state of the world right now, you are not alone.

0:12.2

In a poll from the American Psychological Association, over half the people surveyed said they felt isolated and more than three quarters say they are significantly stressed

0:22.4

about the future of the nation. In times like these, what I crave are stories of resilience,

0:28.9

stories that remind me that the world has been a mess before and others have found creative

0:35.9

ways through it. So I bring you cyanobacteria. These guys have lived

0:42.3

through conditions that resemble actual hell and have made it work. How do they do it? And what can we

0:49.2

learn from them? That is what we're talking about today with Dr. Daviki Bahaya, a molecular microbiologist at Carnegie Science in Stanford, California.

0:57.5

Davy, nice to talk to you. And what do you think of my premise? You can be honest.

1:02.9

I love your premise. I want to applaud you for bringing it right into the room that we are all stressed.

1:09.6

Everybody from humans to microbes. So I'm more than

1:13.7

happy to tell you about how microbes do it. And maybe if the conversation goes that way,

1:19.0

are there any lessons to be learned? Yes, that is what I want to know. Are there lessons to

1:22.9

be learned? And I want to be clear that I don't want to anthropomorphize bacteria. I want to microbialize us.

1:30.5

Two thumbs up to that. Okay. Cyanobacteria, they're your jam. Introduce me to them, like, even starting

1:38.2

with their name. I mean, cyan as in blue, green, right? That's right. And I can't imagine a more appropriate way.

1:46.6

If anybody hasn't seen them, you should go out into the open.

1:49.8

You'll probably see them in any lake.

1:52.3

They're this absolutely gorgeous blue-green color.

1:55.3

That being said, they're even more gorgeous when you break them apart.

1:58.6

You see that there's all kinds of pigments in them.

2:02.0

They were called cyanobacteria, but before that, they were called blue-green algae.

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