Hey, it's Emily Vogeltans, and you are listening to the Grove Podcast.

Thanks so much for tuning in with us.

You're going to love today's conversation with the one and only Christine Kane.

Now the world knows her as a powerhouse preacher,

but over the years we have come to know her

as a really dear friend and partner in ministry.

She really is like family to us here at Passion.

And when you're family, you're able to go deep and talk about some real stuff.

And that's just what we do in today's episode.

Myself, Chris, and Shelly Gigglio get vulnerable and we talk about marriage,

about being moms, the disappointment of life and relationships.

We even have some honest conversations about the struggles of ministry.

I was thankful to be in the room, and I'm really excited for you guys to glean from the wisdom of these two amazing women.

So here is our chat with Christine Kane.

Hey, Shelley, I am so fired up.

It's been so hard for me to keep quiet for this whole two minutes of introduction.

I know! You're like, I'm awkwardly silent. I don't know what to say to her right now.

Hey, we're so glad you're here and I feel like today is going to be amazing because I love that people get inside into real world stuff and you and I have been friends. I was just thinking today for a lot of years now and one of the things that I think is the most informative

about those years is just watching the growth of your girls and because when I

met you they were kids literally they were children and precious children who I love dearly but just watching them grow up

over the years of our friendship has been so special. Talk about it. Talk about you as a mom of

teenage girls.

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