Hey, welcome to Street Fight. That was the fucking most radio way to come into Street Fight.

I don't know. I've been podcasting so far for, you know, since I've been away. So maybe

I've just turned into a hard rock radio DJ. It is me, Brian. I am here to talk about stuff,

current stuff with Alan Siegel from The Ringer, right? Yeah, thanks for having me, man. I appreciate it.

You're welcome. I listen to your oral history of Better Call Saul. Oh wow. Yeah, I went through a whole

fucking thing, right, where like at the end of Better Call Saul, I think I was like trying to

recapture that feeling at the end of Breaking Bad, where it was like the whole world was kind of like

just talking about this one thing. So I went on, I spent like a lot of time on Spotify just listening

to things specifically about Better Call Saul. It wasn't the same, but it was nice. Yeah, I think

like I remember like whipping through Breaking Bad. I think I was maybe two or three seasons behind

and I watched the whole series in about a week and a half and it was probably a little too much

like intensity wise and then, but it's funny. I don't feel like rewatching that show as much as I

do Better Call Saul. It's like a little slower piece, but in a good way, I feel like by the end of

Better Call Saul, it almost became more like Breaking Bad. For sure. Yeah, I mean, I have to say,

and this is not the popular, especially in my circles, thing to say, but I think Breaking Bad

was better, but also like maybe that is also just a time. It was just at a period where you were like

binging a lot more. That was when they were like, Netflix was like, we'll put it all on there.

You can watch it all and like, however much time. So me and the wife watched like the first three

seasons and it waited for the fourth season to come out. And that's like largely over at this point.

Yeah, and like, I feel like Breaking Bad is so maybe this is like a, you know, too fancy

work. It was like very propulsive. So like you start it and you don't want a fucking stop. And then like,

I mean, people sort of talk about Walter White like being a toxic character, but like you do,

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