Optics are very cool, not boring C in the daytime optics, but C in the night optics.

And today's guest has some of the coolest night vision devices that have ever been invented.

Welcome back to another episode of T-Rex talk, and today my guest is Nick Chen.

Nick is a friend to the firearm industry in a kind of an interesting way.

Nick, you've got a hobby.

Is it a hobby or is it actually your job?

You have the most esoteric imaging devices,

night vision devices, optical devices. How did you get into this? You can thank the state of

California for that. Okay. So I was living in Pennsylvania, you know, rest of America where we can, you know, express our freedoms however we want and exercise our freedoms however we want. But then my wife took a very lucrative job with Zeiss and that requires to move back to California. It was good for the family because that's where my parents are most of the time.

So they could see the grandkids.

But for firearm content creation, obviously, it sucks a lot.

And then I started getting to Night Vision when I was just before I was leaving Pennsylvania.

So that just kind of blossomed.

Not because, like, oh, I need to find something else to do.

It's just, I like, why did it take me so long to buy night vision?

This is an amazing superpower.

Like, why did I wait so long?

And it just became an addiction.

I want to try new things.

I want to try the things.

I'll build my own stuff.

And it just snowballed from there.

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