This is an IHeart podcast.

Okay, Joe, start the podcast.

Did you come prepared or not?

No, listen, listen, I... We're doing this as a favor, too.

And I know that, okay?

I'm going to send you something after, okay? Don't do that. Do you want us to dub? I know exactly what I'm getting for both of you.

Don't do that, Joe. Like you're getting us gifts? You get too many gifts for people. Okay. Sam. I've never gotten a gift.

I've given Sam 18 gifts and each one he's like, thanks.

Sometimes I'm like, you don't need to give me a gift.

You know what I mean?

I do think Sam, if I may.

Please.

I could see Sam being more nervous about how to respond to a gift than he is happy about receiving it,

even if it's like the dream gift.

The stress outweighs the gifts value, I will say.

You have a, I think, it's funny because in fact, you follow social norms perfectly, and no one is ever like, wow.

No one's ever like, Sam was rude. Sam didn't do something correctly.

And yet, you have the fear of who does has never actually heard of a social

norm well the fear is what makes you act correctly that's true if you don't have fear you're

gonna act out well sam told me a very important story about his formative years what is it wait

what was that oh nothing just remind me it's just about your formative years. Tell me about my formative years.

Remind me.

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