Stopping the Next Trump with Walter Shaub (Ep 114)

The Bitchuation Room

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News Commentary, News, Comedy, Government

4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2021

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Trump proved presidents have way too much power. It's easy to flaunt anti-corruption laws in the highest office because, well, they hardly exist. We mostly have cute little "norms" and guidelines. So when should those "norms" be made into laws, and how can we stop the ever-expanding power of the executive branch? Walter Shaub, former director of the Office of Government Ethics, had a front row seat to the worst impulses of one of the most corrupt administrations... ever. Where it was Donald Trump's refusal to divest from his organization or Kellyanne Conway hawking Ivanka jewelry on television. Shaub's job was to try and hold Trump minimally accountable which, as you can imagine, became impossible. Shaub resigned in July of 2017, citing the administration's disregard for basic government oversight and the stonewalling of his office. Now Shaub continues the work advocating for reform of the executive branch outside of government. He spoke with Francesca about his time in OGE under Trump, the importance of voting rights, and assesses whether Biden is doing what he can to prevent a future Trump. Short answer: No. Featuring: Walter Shaub, Senior Ethics Fellow, Project on Government Oversight https://twitter.com/waltshaub Join the Franifa and become a Patron today: www.patreon.com/bitchuationroomFollow The Bitchuation Room on Twitter @BitchuationPodGet your TBR merch: www.bitchuationroom.comThanks to Rebecca Rufer, Maximillien Inhoff, Ellie Hoffman, Alexandra OrnessMusic Credits: The Cannery by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4485-the-canneryLicense: https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseSupport The Bitchuation Room on: Venmo: @TBR-LIVE Cash-App: @TBRLIVE Check Out The Bitchuation Room Podcast iTunes: http://bit.ly/iTunesbitchuationSpotify: http://bit.ly/spotifybitchuation Stitcher: http://bit.ly/stitcherbitchuation Find Francesca On: Twitter: https://twitter.com/franifio YouTube: The Bitchuation Room’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/franifio Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/franifioFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/FranifioInsta: https://www.instagram.com/franifio/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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0:00.0	and one of the concerns I have about the current administration is they refer to their ethics program as a compliance program and I'll give them that is a huge improvement over Trump because he wasn't interested in complying with anything.
0:13.4	But they're complying with incredibly weak rules
0:15.8	and want to meddle because they're going around saying
0:17.7	we're the most ethical administration in history.
0:20.4	And they're just striving to be better than Trump and want a medal for it and we really are owed an ethical renaissance right now. Well, hello, hello, hello, welcome one and all to another episode of The Vituations.
0:46.0	Podcast, live stream with your host from Justin Fiore
0:50.0	You saw me on the thing and that other thing that one time and the other one you don't know and why do you follow me? That's cool, but you're here and so am I and I am super stoked because we have a very special episode today for the hour.
1:07.0	We are getting a treat and interviewing a guy named Walter Shop who if you don't know who he is you will at the end of this interview
1:18.4	he was the director of the office of government ethics under Barack Obama and then of course under Donald Trump and famously
1:26.8	resigned in protest as to what he saw going on and going down in the Trump White House at the same time he hasn't stopped there.
1:37.1	So he just didn't you know he didn't start dancing with the stars after all that.
1:42.1	He's now continuing to call for there to be more ethics in the top
1:46.5	branches of our government, especially the White House and the executive branch, and lobbying for, you you know voting rights and all that the guy is
1:56.7	pretty awesome and I am super pumped to talk to him about his time in the White House, his time out of the White House since then, what he saw going down, what he makes of the current president, the current administration, and how we can actually authoritarian proof our
2:15.8	democracy in the future.
2:18.4	Walter Schaub has some ideas, so sit tight and also just you guys know this episode was recorded in the past and it's being aired in the future.
2:33.6	So I don't know if we make it, guys.
2:37.0	So if you're in the comments, let me know, do we make it?
2:40.0	If there's a Francesca Fiore in the comments,
2:41.8	I hope you're enjoying your vacation.
2:44.2	I hope everything's fine.
2:45.2	I hope your mom's just like not too obnoxious about the whole I want to be a grandma thing,
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