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On with Kara Swisher

‘Stop This Mass Invasion’: Mayor Frey Blasts ICE Operation in Minneapolis

On with Kara Swisher

New York Magazine

Society & Culture

4.23.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

For the last few weeks, Minneapolis has been the epicenter of President Trump’s aggressive immigration crackdown, but tensions between residents and the administration exploded after an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent shot and killed Renee Good earlier this month. And after the killing of Alexander Pretti by federal agents on Saturday, it's safe to assume the situation will only get worse. Approximately 3,000 ICE and Border Patrol agents have deployed to the metro area. Roughly the same number of people have been arrested. And the Justice Department has issued grand jury subpoenas to a handful of local elected Democratic officials, including Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey.  Kara and Mayor Frey talk about why he thinks the DOJ’s subpoenas are about politics, not public safety; what his office is telling the local immigrant community; and why he doesn’t agree with calls to "abolish ICE." They also talk about Trump’s threats to use the Insurrection Act against protesters, and why he thinks everyone — even Republicans — should be outraged about what’s happening in Minneapolis right now.  This interview was recorded on Thursday, January 22nd. Questions? Comments? Email us at on@voxmedia.com or find us on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Threads, and Bluesky @onwithkaraswisher. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Before Renee Good was shot, the chief of police and I were both privately and publicly expressing concerns that somebody was going to get shot or killed.

0:10.0

And by the way, it's going to happen again on top of that because this is the kind of conduct that we're seeing that inevitably will lead to people getting hurt.

0:32.3

Thank you. that we're seeing that inevitably will lead to people getting hurt. Hi, everyone from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:36.3

This is on with Kara Swisher, and I'm

0:38.3

Kara Swisher. For weeks now, Minneapolis has been ground zero for the Trump administration's

0:43.2

sweeping and aggressive immigration crackdown. The city hit an inflection point when an ice

0:48.2

officer killed Renee Good, a 37-year-old U.S. citizen and mother who was protesting their presence

0:53.4

in the city.

0:54.7

And then on Saturday, the 24th, federal agents killed another American citizen.

1:00.3

Alexander Pretti was a 37-year-old ICU nurse who worked at the local Veterans Affairs

1:05.2

Hospital. Videos show him trying to help a woman who had been shoved and pepper sprayed by

1:09.9

agents.

1:16.1

Preti himself gets sprayed, wrestled to the ground by multiple agents, hit repeatedly in the face,

1:22.1

and then shot in the back when he's on his knees. That is called murder, and there is no statute of limitations for prosecuting it. According to the Trump administration, you shouldn't believe your lying eyes,

1:29.1

and the multiple videos from many angles that were taken on the scene and widely proliferated on social media.

1:35.7

Instead, they want you to believe their lies.

1:39.3

According to Christy Nome, the Secretary of Homeland Security, he was a domestic terrorist.

1:44.8

According to Border Patrol commander Gregory Bovino, Predate was intent on massacre,

1:49.8

and the agents who killed him are the victims.

1:53.1

Predt was legally carrying a gun, which was holstered before the agents took it from him and killed him.

1:59.9

Some 3,000 ICE and Border Patrol officers have

2:03.0

deployed to the Twin Cities. President Trump threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act to deal

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