Stop The World, We Want To Get Off (When Allies Face No Consequences)
The Trawl
Jemma Forte & Marina Purkiss
4.7 • 867 Ratings
🗓️ 1 April 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
It’s one of those episodes.
Marina and Jemma try (and occasionally fail) to keep it together as they wade through a week of escalating horror: war rhetoric, media apathy, and leaders who seem either missing in action or actively making things worse. From the sheer scale of the US “No Kings” protests to the deeply disturbing reality unfolding across Iran, Israel and Lebanon, this is a conversation driven by anger, disbelief and a desperate need to make sense of it all.
They ask the question many are thinking: why does it feel like the world isn’t reacting? Is it apathy, overwhelm, or something more uncomfortable?
There are moments of dark humour (because it’s The Trawl), but this one pulls no punches on Trump, on global leadership, on media coverage, and on the growing sense that ordinary people are being left shouting into the void.
Plus: a truly unhinged MAGA money grab, CPAC chaos, and proof that sometimes the most honest commentary is coming from random people online.
It’s cathartic, it’s furious, and it’s very, very real.
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | These civilians have been killed by Iranian ballistic missiles and 2,000 Israelis were wounded. |
| 0:06.0 | Why? |
| 0:07.0 | I'm sorry, is there a problem with the war you order? |
| 0:09.0 | Hello and welcome to the hellscape of our new cycle, so you don't have to. |
| 0:26.2 | I'm Gemma Forte. |
| 0:27.2 | And I'm Marina Perkis, and honestly, when are we going to come to the mic, Gemma, and be able to talk about something, I don't know, overwhelmingly positive? |
| 0:37.3 | We'll just be happy. Because at the |
| 0:38.7 | moment, it kind of feels like every time we've hit rock bottom, someone just hands us a shovel. |
| 0:44.9 | What a week, trawlers, what a week. I am very happy to be here. Yesterday, I had one of those days |
| 0:53.7 | where the news really overwhelmed me. |
| 0:56.7 | And usually I'm excellent at compartmentalising in a weird way, |
| 1:00.5 | so knowing what's going on, knowing that I'm going to come to the trawl. |
| 1:03.0 | So it's all going to be okay because it's cathartic and I've got Marina and all the rest of it. |
| 1:07.9 | But yesterday, I found myself feeling a bit like I'd gone mad because I was going about my day |
| 1:13.9 | and in the morning I had seen and we are going to get to it because we have to. |
| 1:18.2 | We had seen Israeli politicians such as Ben Gavir celebrating the fact that they had passed a law |
| 1:24.4 | that would enable them to hang Palestinian detainees. And I felt |
| 1:30.2 | sick. And I was sort of expecting my phone to pop off as we collectively went, oh my God, |
| 1:39.2 | you know, it's Stalinist Russia, it's Mao's China, it's Nazi Germany, and it didn't. And it really upset me. |
| 1:49.2 | And more people seemed to give us shit about what Scott Mills had been up to. And I just thought, |
| 1:54.3 | I just don't care. This is, this is, this is, this is so frightening. And then I was trying to get hold of marina and i knew marina had a |
| 2:03.4 | really intense busy day so i just spoke at her on on a voice note which helped and and so today |
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