"Stop The Boats" with Dr Kim Huynh
Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
Josh Szeps
4.5 • 905 Ratings
🗓️ 23 April 2021
⏱️ 100 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Gide, humans. Do you ever feel that the pace of change is a little faster than you might like, |
| 0:07.0 | that the direction of the change is a little more chaotic than you might like? Do you ever feel |
| 0:11.7 | somewhat destabilized? And maybe even that if you articulate your concerns or your frustrations or your |
| 0:18.3 | fears, there will always be someone right there to jump |
| 0:21.8 | down your throat and tell you that that's an inappropriate thing to say, or that you might |
| 0:26.4 | have just devalued someone else's feelings by expressing your yearning for things that are |
| 0:32.7 | comfortable to you. In the conversations around immigration and refugees and what we should do about the fact that we |
| 0:38.8 | live in a globalized world on a single planet where all of us are just striving to get by and |
| 0:43.3 | help one another and create a better future, that that is inherently destabilizing, that that |
| 0:48.8 | is inherently discombobulating. And we can have this conversation alone in the privacy of our own brains, |
| 0:56.2 | fearful of triggering tripwires that are going to anger other people |
| 1:00.3 | or of saying things that we're not supposed to say or of coming across the wrong way |
| 1:04.1 | or of not seeming like we're allies. |
| 1:06.0 | We can hide in our own heads jumping at shadows. |
| 1:11.4 | Or we can take a maximally expansive idea of what conversation is supposed to be. |
| 1:18.5 | And we can articulate ourselves and try to not judge each other and try to muddle our way |
| 1:23.9 | through all of this. |
| 1:25.9 | Because the surest way to inspire a backlash, a bigoted, small, |
| 1:32.2 | petty-minded, insular, parochial backlash against the kind of globalization that I'm saying |
| 1:39.3 | is something we should embrace. The surest way to provoke that backlash is to stymie conversation and make |
| 1:46.0 | people feel too afraid to be able to articulate their legitimate concerns, even if those concerns |
| 1:51.3 | tiptoe up towards demographic or racial or ethnic or religious fault lines. We need to have |
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