Hello and welcome to Trigonometry. I'm Francis Foster. I'm Constantine Kissen. And this is a show

for you if you want on his conversations with fascinating people. We've got all kinds of

fascinating guests for you today. He's an adult film producer, performer and our first transsexual

man on the show. Buck Angel, welcome to Trigonometry. Right on. Thank you for having me. I'm the first

first transsexual man. We've had lots of trans women on the show, but not so much the other way.

And I think that would be one of the things that will be interesting to talk to you about.

Before we do, though, just tell everybody your story. Who are you? How are you where you are?

What is the journey that brings you here to be talking to us? Because your story is really,

really interesting. Well, thank you. First off, thanks for having me on. I appreciate

giving me this space. So I'm a transsexual man, which means I was born female and transitioned to

live as a man 26 years ago. So biologically, I'm female. I never felt that way. Whenever that

means, it's a difficult space to kind of tell people because it's like, I don't feel like a woman.

I felt like a man. So I had a change to fit my space. And I walked the world as a man. I got into

pornography. I created the genre of trans male pornography 21 years ago. From there,

my voice just got into the universe. And I became a public speaker. And I travel the world now

talking about my transition 26 years ago, which was a whole other level of transition than it is

today. And I also identify as a transsexual man. So hopefully we can have that discussion

along the way. Well, let's let's talk about that. First of all, because I don't even know what's

the difference between a trans person and a transsexual person. Sure. So what for me,

this is how I actually explain it. Now people are going to argue with it, whatever. But this is my

identity and my story. So yeah, it's me and tonight. People are going to argue whatever you say,

right? I'm going to tell me my story is wrong. That's the best part about it. So that being said,

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