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Dharmapunx NYC

Stop Making Sense: Retrieving the Felt Experience Before All Conceptualization and Meaning Making

Dharmapunx NYC

josh korda

Religion & Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality:buddhism, Buddhism

4.8886 Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2019

⏱️ 54 minutes

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0:00.0

Hello, thanks for listening to this Darma podcast. I hope you consider that in accordance with the Buddhist tradition all of my work as a teacher is offered without charge and supported entirely by donations only.

0:12.0

If you'd like to support this work you'll find a

0:13.8

PayPal button on darmopunks NYC.com. In 1966 a very important cultural icon, art critic, a very accomplished writer and philosopher

0:30.1

Susan Sontag wrote a piece called Against Interpretation. It was a wonderful, wonderful bit of art theory and it also had many ramifications beyond just the way we look at art.

0:55.0

Basically what Sontag spoke of is that in life there's a rush to interpretation. When we look at art, it is of course unsettling, especially

1:08.3

art that is not propaganda. When we look at complex work that is that doesn't have a sort of meaning or obvious

1:21.0

message to it in In other words, when it's challenging art, there's a temptation to,

1:30.0

as we stand in front of it to figure out what it all means, to interpret, to come up with an

1:41.3

underlying hidden message and in so doing when we try to reduce a really complex experience or event and summarize it with a message. She noted that we tend to kill

2:01.0

the experience. We tend to kill the power of the work itself and the way we interact with it, the real feelings, the visceral state of being confronted with a

2:20.0

you know, a duchamp or a scytople or whatever, I don't know who your favorite artists are,

2:29.6

you know, but you, when you see it, we have an opportunity either to immediately reduce it to some

2:37.1

kind of okay Duchamp was simply making a sort of neolistic statement about the world by engaging

2:49.7

in chance operations to Crete as art, or you can actually feel something emotional

2:58.0

and not try to reduce it to some kind of explanation.

3:05.0

Sontag wrote, analysis evacuates and destroys,

3:11.0

it digs behind the work to find a subtext which is the true one.

3:18.9

Manifest content must be probed and pushed aside to find the true meaning, the latent content.

3:27.0

Interpretation indicates a dissatisfaction with the work, IAMR, and a wish to replace it with something else.

3:37.0

And from the moment I read that, I mean, I first came across this piece about 35 years ago but it left an immediate

3:52.0

it really sunk in. It really

3:53.4

sunk in as like a really elegant pointing to something that I think is a

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