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Welcome back to the Hackett Out Golf podcast. Tonight you've got myself, Mark Crossroad and Scott

Fawcett. Lou can't be with us this evening. But we're going to talk about one shot to rule them all. We're going to talk about shot shape and how you should

fight it or just play what you've got. And we've also got a special guest in Zach Johnson

talking about his ideas of shot shape. It should be a fun one.

Welcome, Scott. How are you?

I'm fantastic. Sad. The Byron Nelson's in town this week and it's been raining.

I haven't even gone out to a practice round. The PJ Tour's 15 minutes from my house this week.

And I'm just... Okay. Okay. That's frustrating. Yeah, hopefully it clears up.

Yeah, absolutely. So you managed to get some time with Zach Johnson.

I think it was almost last year you talked to him, wasn't it?

But you've got a little recording for us to play to the audience from Zach talking about his ideas of one shot shape or fighting shot shapes, those kind of ideas.

Let's listen to what Zach had to say.

Got Zach Johnson right here talking about hitting one shape with the driver. Tell me what it does for you. Well, I think you want to establish something that you can rely on. You know, and this game is

difficult as is. You want to have something where, especially in a situation that's

crunch, or later in the day where it's, you know, just a crucial T-shot, a crucial seven-iron

shot that's just, I mean, you've got to rely on something, something that got you there

in that first place.

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