STOP Doing Courses: The New Way to Learn at Work | Helen Tupper

Jimmy's Jobs of the Future

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Careers, Business, Technology

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🗓️ 11 February 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Unlocking the Secrets of Squiggly Careers with Helen Tupper In this episode of Jimmy's Jobs of the Future, Jimmy interviews Helen Tupper, the co-author of the bestselling book 'Learn Like a Lobster' and developer of the concept of 'Squiggly Careers'. Helen shares her insights on modern career trajectories and the importance of continual learning in the workplace. She explains how squiggly careers can help individuals remain resilient amidst rapid change and delves into the analogy of lobsters, highlighting traits that can be beneficial to learning and growth. Helen also discusses practical tools and strategies for fostering a culture of learning in organizations, the impact of team learning, and the evolving nature of job roles. The conversation touches on Helen's business model, hiring practices, personal learning experiences, and her future ambitions with squiggly careers. 00:00 Intro 01:00 The Problem with Learning at Work 02:07 Lobster Traits and Learning 04:10 The Importance of Feedback and Failure 07:39 Rethinking Meetings for Better Learning 10:09 The Origin of the Lobster Concept 16:45 Understanding Thinking Styles 26:37 The Future of Learning in Teams 29:45 Celebrating Learners: A New Perspective 30:14 The School System's Misalignment with Real-World Skills 31:20 The Importance of Saying and Hearing the Hard Thing 33:08 The Multiplier Effect: Enhancing Feedback 35:41 Personal Example: Feedback at the Lobster Hatchery 39:33 Building the Squiggly Careers Business Model 50:54 Job Crafting: Designing Your Ideal Role 54:18 Hiring and Role Evolution at Amazing If 57:37 Creating Custom GPTs for Career Development 59:00 Final Thoughts and Reflections ********** Follow us on socials! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jimmysjobs Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jimmysjobsofthefuture Twitter / X: https://www.twitter.com/JimmyM Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmy-mcloughlin-obe/ Want to come on the show? hello@jobsofthefuture.co Sponsor the show or Partner with us: sunny@jobsofthefuture.co Credits: Host / Exec Producer: Jimmy McLoughlin OBE Producer: Sunny Winter https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnywinter/ Junior Producer: Thuy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:06.0	Welcome to Jimmy's Jobs of the Future.
1:08.1	Today I'm joined by Helen Tupper.
1:10.6	She, along with her co-founder, Sarah Ellis, came up with the concept of the Future. Today I'm joined by Helen Tupper. She, along with her co-founder, Sarah
1:12.5	Ellis, came up with the concept of squiggly careers over a decade ago. Many of you will know that
1:18.9	we've done, work with them in the past, various live shows and so on. They really are an inspiration.
1:24.7	Although I almost didn't start the Jimmy's Jobs of the Future podcast because they
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