The more muscle you have, the more calories you burn at rest.

So just sitting here because I have more muscle, you're sitting here because you have more muscle, we are burning more calories at rest. Because as soon as you start cheating the system, that always is going to catch up with you. And if you're doing it to cheat the system, it will rebound. Vision, learn your food, move your body, lift some weights. Yeah. I mean, thanks.

You are tuned into the Dr. Tina show with Dr. Tina Moore. For more, visit Dr.tina.com. Natalie Jill, thank you so much for coming on the show today. I love chatting with you. Yes, this is going to be so fun. So we are good friends in real life. And so we are going to have the conversation that you and I have off the air all the time about midlife women and fat loss and just all the craziness that's going on.

When you said the conversation we have offline, if only people saw our text, there's a lot there.

There's a lot there. Yes, yes. So you, I have been following you forever.

I just have to tell you, I don't even know if you know that.

I have been following you for, like, when I first, 10 years ago, I was like, I'm going to go online. Someday, I'm going to build a big, you know, online empire. And you were one of the first people I found. Oh, I didn't know that. Because I was really into strength training and I was really into this concept of like eating whole foods.

Obviously I'm a nature path and strength training and I was really into this concept of like eating whole foods.

Obviously I'm a nature path and strength training and you were one of the few accounts making any sense around that. Oh wow. I didn't know that. Yeah. So I've been stalking you for a long time. I love hearing that. So okay. First, I think tell the audience a bit about your background because you have a really, you sent me a really, you did the 2016 and

2026 and you had such a fun spread of photos there.

Well, first I'm going to say, I'm just like everybody else.

So I kind of got into all of this by accident.

I'm just, I used to say when I got into this at age 35, which I'm, gosh, 54 now, I was just like everybody else.

I mean, I was a mom doing her thing, and I kind of lost my way at age 35.

I became a single mom, not really planning for that to happen, but found myself divorced,

found myself completely upside down financially, just in a really bad situation and I had also

gained a lot of weight. And I remember for the first time in my life, feeling super, super,

just depressed, anxiety, not making any sense of my life. And it was finding nutrition,

working out, changing my mindset that changed my life and ultimately

brought me online to help change others' lives.

And what's wild is I became in that time of just helping myself and helping other people,

this very well-known fitness person.

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