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The Ramsey Show

Stop Being Sick And Tired—Decide to Change!

The Ramsey Show

Ramsey Network

Business, Education, Investing, Self-improvement

4.636.7K Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2025

⏱️ 129 minutes

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0:00.0

Brought to you by the Every Dollar app. Start budgeting for free today.

0:13.0

Normal is broke. Common sense is weird, so we're here to help you transform your life.

0:19.6

From the Ramsey Network in the Fairwinds Credit Union Studio, this is

0:23.9

the Ramsey Show. I'm Ken Coleman. Jade Worshaw is alongside AAA 8255-2-2-25. Is the phone number

0:32.6

AAA 825-5-2-25. Your money questions, Jade is ready to go. She stretched beforehand, I'm told.

0:39.8

I did. Got a little energy drink, so she'll help you on those. I'll assist. And then Ramsey just

0:44.2

did a new study, Jade, and in my area of things on work, and we're finding that the two

0:51.0

biggest areas of problems for folks in the workspace is burnout and a lack of life balance around work.

0:58.8

Are we going to talk about that today?

1:00.5

If that is you, folks, you can call in and I'll dive in on that.

1:05.6

So there you go.

1:06.7

Money, the burnout, the life balance issues as it relates to your professional life. They all

1:12.0

tie in, by the way. I think you need to dive in regardless of anybody calls in. So we'll take those

1:15.9

questions and let's start with Lars in Eugene, Oregon. Lars, how are you, sir? I'm doing

1:23.8

well. How are you, Ken? Good. How can we help today? I'm wondering what gazelle intensity looks like for me when I have massive debt and okay income and a pretty full family life where I feel very busy.

1:37.1

Why don't you lay out the debt and then we'll get into the family schedule?

1:41.4

Yeah, so I'm in $156,000 of debt, vast majority student loans plus about 4,400 left on a silly van payment.

1:50.8

Okay.

1:51.3

So other than the 4,400, is everything else student loans?

1:55.9

Yes.

1:56.7

Okay, okay, yeah, that feels scary, $152,000. Is that right?

2:01.9

$156, yeah. Oh, 52 the loans. For the student loans, yeah. What kind of degree did you get?

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