Welcome back. It's episode 136 and half of the Hoover Institution's Law Talk podcast coming to you, as we always do, in the faculty lounge of the Epstein and U. School of Law, where everyone's too

confused by the Malon-Pittany statute to know whether or not to tear it down. That's right,

fellas, you're going to have to sit through some of the same jokes. I am your host, Troy Seneca,

former White House speechwriter, and Guy who's currently buying up Washington Redskins merchandise

in anticipation of an annuitized retirement via eBay. And I am joined, as always,

by the Palmer and Nicholas of the conservative legal movement. They are Richard Epstein,

the Peter and Kierston Bedford Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, the Lawrence A. Tisch

of Law at NYU, and Senior Lecturer at the University of Chicago. And John You, visiting

fellow at the Hoover Institution, the Emmanuel S. Heller Professor of Law at the University of Chicago, and John Yu, visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution,

the Emmanuel S. Heller, Professor of Law, at the University of California, Berkeley, and former

deputy assistant attorney general in the Bush administration. By the way, I should note up top that

next month in August, we're going to be doing our annual listener Q&A show. So if you're an OG

Law Talk fan and you listen to the show via Rikoshae, you can put your questions for the professors

in the thread on this show. We'll have another thread closer to when the show airs. But if you're

not, you can also email your questions to meet directly, Troy at rickshay.com.

Gentlemen, so we are engaged in an exercise we haven't been through before in the

history of the show, which is a makeup show.

We recorded an episode last week, I think probably the longest one we've ever done.

We did about 90 minutes.

It's really good, I thought.

And we wrapped it up and we shut it down. And it turned out that we

had recorded about 90 seconds of it. So this is our version of like when Hemingway's wife left

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