The

The The No doubt she was there. It's no doubt she was there.

It snowed on Thursday.

So we know that our freeze the rain on Thursday.

And Nick, just to add, which Ed knows a lot more than I do.

I see, he was there.

But she was cut.

She had, you know, her wrists were, the cuts on her wrist, and she had a big cut on her.

Like playing department of her inside.

Had that child been, like, handcuffed and put over a pipe in the basement.

Let's just say that for the sake of this conversation.

The pressure that would be put on their wrists would not do what the cuts on her wrist.

We try to duplicate the injuries to her wrist as the, with the handcuffs being the factor,

and we couldn't make that fit.

There's no way if she's handcuffed behind her back, if she's handcuffed over the,

like I said, a pipe in the basement to restrain her. Those handcuffs just did not cut. The

wrist the way they were cut. You guys have an extensive background in law enforcement. Many years on the force,

both of your forces, respectively.

How rare is it to arrive at anything and find handcuffs, bloody handcuffs?

You don't put handcuffs on the dead person. I've always said that. You know what I'm saying?

They were obviously used to be straight. Yeah. Yeah. So I have never, I have never went to a crime scene.

I've investigated quite a few homicides.

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