“Stoking the fires”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Politics, News, Ms Now, Msnbc, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Versant, Washington Dc, Government

4.5 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 November 2023

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Nicolle Wallace discusses disturbing rhetoric surrounding the ex-president’s 2024 campaign, today’s batch of testimony from his sons in the New York civil fraud trial, a confrontation late in the day in that courtroom, an update from the ground as bombardments increase in Gaza and Senator Dick Durbin becomes the first in the Senate to call for a ceasefire, Republicans finally confronting Senator Tommy Tuberville over the national security implications of his military blockade, Joined by: Jonathan Karl, Tim Heaphy, Susanne Craig, Ellison Barber, Raf Sanchez, Charlie Sykes, Amy McGrath, Allison Jaslow, Carol Leonnig, and Samantha Power.

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0:00.0	Hi there, everyone. It's 4 o'clock in New York. The Trump Dividends. That is how Trump
0:12.2	allies Steve Bannon sums up a movement that has swallowed whole one of our nation's
0:17.2	two major political parties. A movement led by an ex-president currently facing 91 felony
0:22.7	counts and on a third run for the White House on a platform of damaging democracy. That
0:28.7	quote is from Jonathan Carl's brand new book, Tired of Winning, Donald Trump in the end
0:34.2	of the Grand Old Party. It reveals the stromatic collision of efforts to hold the ex-president
0:39.5	accountable for his alleged crimes and misdeeds and a candidate who has no hesitation stoking
0:45.9	the fires of right-wing extremism and sees winning the presidency as the only way to get
0:51.5	out of his legal troubles. In an essay in the Atlantic that is adapted from his brand new
0:56.0	book, John Carl writes this about the decision by the Trump campaign to hold its very first
1:02.0	rally in Waco, Texas, the side of a standoff between far-right extremists and the FBI that
1:08.2	ended in dozens of deaths. Quote shortly after the rally was announced, I asked Steve Bannon,
1:14.4	who had served as the CEO of Trump's 2016 campaign and had once again emerged as one of Trump's
1:20.7	most important advisors, why the former president would go to Waco for his big campaign reboot.
1:26.9	He wasn't coy. Quote, where the Trump dividends he told me with a laugh? As for Trump's comments
1:34.5	at that speech, John Carl writes this, quote, this was not a campaign speech in any traditional
1:40.2	sense. Trump echoed the themes of paranoia and foreboding that grew out of the Waco massacre.
1:46.9	Quote, as far as the I can see, the abuses of power that were currently witnessing at all levels
1:51.9	of government will go down as among the most shameful, corrupt, and depraved chapters in all of
1:57.7	American history, Trump said. The central message of the Trump candidacy was now geared around
2:03.7	fending off the criminal cases brought by Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg, special counsel Jack Smith,
2:09.5	and Fulton County DA Fanny Willis. Once again, John Carl writing in the Atlantic, quote,
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