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Stocks are up. That's the problem | Bob Elliott

Full Signal

Phil Rosen

Investing, Business

4.818 Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Bob Elliott is the co-founder and CIO of Unlimited Funds. He joins Phil Rosen to discuss the macro outlook and oil shock, the Fed's dilemma, portfolio positioning for 2026, and lessons from working next to Ray Dalio.


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Timestamps:


0:00 - Intro

0:30 - The current economic shift

1:25 - Impact of oil shock

3:45 - The Fed's impossible situation

5:25 - Labor market weakness

7:15 - Fed nominee Kevin Warsh

10:15 - Why stocks haven't sold off

13:15 - Oil shock amnesia gripping markets

15:10 - Commodities, risk reduction, rebalancing

17:10 - Long-term positioning

19:45 - Gold and bitcoin

23:45 - What investors are getting wrong today

26:25 - Pain comes before policy

29:20 - Lessons from Ray Dalio

32:00 - The 55/45 rule

35:10 - Putting hedge fund strategies in an ETF

37:35 - HFGM

39:10- Follow Bob Elliott


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0:00.0

On this episode of Full Signal, I sit down with Bob Elliott. He is the CIO and co-founder of

0:05.2

Unlimited Funds and he used to work directly with Ray Dalio at Bridgewater. We get into his

0:10.1

macro outlook, the Iran conflict, what the oil shock could do to asset prices, how he's thinking

0:16.0

about the rest of the year for investors, and much more. This is a fantastic conversation. It is full of

0:21.4

insight. I think you're going to love it. Bob, it's great to see you. I would love to just

0:28.4

get right into your big picture overview of markets. My understanding is that you're a bit more

0:33.5

cautious than maybe some of our other colleagues in the industry right now. Yeah, well, I think when we were coming into this year, the beginning of this year,

0:39.9

we were, we had sort of transitioned from what I called the income-driven expansion,

0:44.1

which is where, you know, households were making good income and they were spending it,

0:48.5

and that was powering the economy, to what I now, what I called the disavings-driven economy, where, you know, the slowing of income growth for households had meant that they had to start to draw down their savings in order to maintain their spending.

1:02.3

And in addition, the government, you know, the fiscal deficit was expanding and businesses were starting to borrow in order to invest.

1:10.0

And that sort of put the economy a bit

1:11.7

on the knife's edge. You know, if nothing, if there's no other issues, we probably would have had a

1:17.2

fine year here in 26. But unfortunately, in the last couple of weeks, an issue has arisen. We've,

1:23.3

we're experiencing an oil shock. And oil shocks, they don't come around very often. And a lot of folks can easily sort of forget the dynamics.

1:31.5

But in some ways, it's very simple, which is when oil prices rise a lot, that means input

1:37.0

costs rise, which really create a tough scenario because both inflation rises, which reduces the ability for a central bank to ease monetary policy, but also real spending falls because people are spending more on gas and less on other essentials in their book.

1:56.4

And that's a big drag on the economy.

1:58.4

And so right now, given oil prices where the curve is right now,

2:02.0

we're looking at something like a one to one and a half percent hit to real spending in the

2:06.4

U.S. economy for consumers. And that would transition the U.S. economy from, you know, on a knife's edge,

2:12.8

sort of still barely getting to sort of that 2 percent growth that we're all used to to something that's

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