This started a long life of group homes, detention centers, and ultimately prison.

At what point did they intervene? Why didn't they intervene?

It's a situation that I would not want to find myself in. I would never want to get attacked,

and I would never want to have to defend myself by killing somebody.

And the big question we always ask, John, is just as been served here.

This is True Crimecast.

This is True Crimecast. Jamie, joined by Jen on as always, what's up?

Hey, man, allergy season in Kentucky, so if I sound a little hoarse, it's that.

I think you sound good. I like the deeper voice coming through.

Yeah, if I could keep this all the time, I think I'd be just fine and dandy with it.

Yeah, we got a very wide vibe going on. I appreciate it.

Yeah, very good. Yeah, so Fall, we're coming up in just over two months on our five-year podcasting anniversary.

Yeah, isn't that crazy to think about? It's insane.

I feel like that time is just coming on, man, like super fast.

It has certainly flown by. We're trying to put together a few special things to celebrate.

So we'll keep you guys posted on those. But first, we want to give out some thank yous.

Got some more five-star reviews over on Apple Podcast.

This says, love True Crimecast. Jamie and John do an awesome job.

I listen to you guys anytime I'm driving.

I love the variety of cases and the depth of their research.

I have a case I'd love for you guys to do Jeffrey McDonald murder case.

I don't see where it's already been done. Thank you. That is missy-rin.

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