Still Bobbi: Bobbi Brown on Reinvention, Midlife Entrepreneurship & Finding Purpose After 60

unPAUSED with Dr. Mary Claire Haver

Mary Claire Media, LLC

Medicine, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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What does it look like to begin again at 62 and thrive? Beauty industry pioneer Bobbi Brown joins Dr. Mary Claire Haver for an intimate conversation about her new memoir Still Bobbi, building Jones Road Beauty in her sixties, leaving behind the company that bore her name for 25 years, and redefining what success, purpose, and aging mean in the second half of life. Bobbi Brown revolutionized the beauty industry with her "no makeup makeup" philosophy in the 1990s, sold her company to Estée Lauder, and spent decades as creative director before exiting in her late fifties. But instead of retiring, she launched Jones Road Beauty at 62 during a pandemic, proving that passion and entrepreneurship don't disappear with age, they evolve. In this personal conversation, Bobbi shares her journey from Chicago to building a global beauty empire, the emotional reality of leaving the company with her name on it, and why she refuses to use the term "anti-aging." She opens up about growing up with a mother who struggled with mental illness, losing her brother to HIV, and how weighted vest training and strength over skinny became her midlife mantras. Dr. Haver and Bobbi connect over shared experiences of menopause, hormone therapy, and the relentless pressure of being a founder. They discuss what it means to perform when exhausted, learning to say no, and why the maintenance phase of any transformation whether weight loss or career pivot is often the hardest part. Bobbi's memoir Still Bobbi is a story of resilience, grit, and determination for anyone who thought their best work was behind them. Guest links: Jones Road Beauty Bobbi Brown (Instagram) Bobbi Brown (Threads) Bobbi Brown (TikTok) Bobbi Brown (LinkedIn) Bobbi Brown (Facebook) Bobbi Brown (Website) Jones Road Beauty (Instagram)Jones Road Beauty (Facebook) Articles High-Impact Mechanical Loading Increases Bone Material Strength in Postmenopausal Women-A 3-Month Intervention Study (Journal of Bone and Mineral Research) Other Resources Institute for Integrative Nutrition Miracle Balm (Jones Road Beauty) Bobbi Brown Teaches Makeup and Beauty (Masterclass) Diane von Furstenberg: Woman in Charge (Hulu) American College of Culinary Medicine The Bobbi Kit 5.0 (Jones Road Beauty) “The New Perimenopause,”⁠ by Dr. Mary Claire Haver ⁠"The New Menopause"⁠ by Dr. Mary Claire Haver For full show notes, please click here. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm still served ads that are anti-aging and it drives me crazy.
0:03.8	There isn't such a thing.
0:04.8	No.
0:05.3	I mean, I'm older now than when I first arrived here.
0:07.7	Like, there's nothing that's going to anti-age you.
0:10.7	There's things that will age you quicker, like smoking and not wearing sunscreen and
0:15.6	stress and bad food and, you know, all that kind of stuff.
0:18.9	But I'm a liver.
0:20.5	It's, you know know I'm not looking to
0:22.2	to use the term anti-age at all I just I want to be more vibrant and I do that through makeup
0:28.9	and I do it through what stopped me in my tracks.
0:47.2	I won't want to work when I'm 60.
0:49.3	I laughed out loud because 30 years ago, those were my words too.
0:53.6	I thought 60 would mean retirement,
0:55.9	grandbabies, slowing down. What I never imagined is that now at 57, I feel like this is the most
1:02.3	productive, impactful, and fulfilling time of my life. That line resonated because it revealed
1:08.0	how deeply we underestimate what purpose and passion can look like
1:11.9	later in life. When I first saw Bobby launch Jones Road Beauty, I remember thinking,
1:17.0	does she really need to do this? Why did she take this on? And then I realized, we don't create
1:23.0	just for financial reasons. We create because passion and purpose don't disappear with age.
1:28.2	I met Bobby at a business summit where I was an invited speaker. She was standing in front of a
1:32.5	table filled with the Jones Road line, and I'll never forget the image, this incredible icon in the
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