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Impolitic with John Heilemann

Stevie Van Zandt, Part 2

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 December 2022

⏱️ 70 minutes

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In which John Heilemann talks with Stevie Van Zandt, a founding member of Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band, inductee in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, co-star of The Sopranos, and author of a new memoir, Unrequited Infatuations. In this special two-part episode, Heilemann and Van Zandt discuss his early musical influences, the foundations of his best friendship with Springsteen, the extraordinary albums they made together in the 1970s—Born to Run, Darkness on the Edge of Town, The River—and the painful breakup that caused Van Zandt to commit "career suicide" by leaving the band on the brink of its becoming the biggest rock act in the world; his solo career as a musician and political activist, in particular his crucial part in the movement to dismantle the apartheid regime in South Africa; his unlikely emergence as a beloved actor in the role of Silvio Dante opposite James Gandolfini in David Chase's acclaimed HBO mobster series; and his reconciliation with Springsteen and return to the E Street Band two decades after his departure. Van Zandt also explains why he fought The Boss over calling his group The E Street Band — and still considers it a piss-poor name — and Van Zandt's view that the debate over "sways" versus "waves" in the lyrics of "Thunder Road" is no debate at all.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey, everyone, John Heilman here and welcome to Helen Highwater, my podcast about politics and culture on the edge of Armageddon.

1:07.2

It's a determined, if dubious, committed if cuckoo for cocoa puffs, often wrong but rarely in doubt exercise in elevated gas baggery that neither rain nor snow nor heat nor gloom of night, nor the toxic rantings of the Nuthouse Right, a president attempting to invalidate a legitimate election and staged an auto coup,

1:29.8

complete with an armed insurrection at the United States Capitol,

1:33.4

nor more broadly and arguably even more disturbingly,

1:37.3

the capture of a decent-sized chunk of our political, social, and civic spheres by a cadre of incoherent, insidious, conspiracy-addled, autocracy-craving,

1:43.5

authoritarian-worshipping lunatics, hustlers, grifters, nihilists, and nincompoops, none of it, none of it has kept us from our duly sworn duty and obligations, giving you, our listeners, a fresh episode of this podcast week after week, after week after week, maybe not without, because, you know, hashtag epic fail is one of our many

2:04.8

mottoes around here, but certainly without a pause.

2:08.9

We've been doing that for more than two years, haven't had a break.

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All of which is to say that I am plum shagged out and desperately in need of some R&R.

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And with the midterm election, now comfortably in the rearview mirror in our democracy, amazingly,

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if I will admit, a little unexpectedly, still intact, it seems like a suitable time for the

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