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Welcome to disruptors. I'm Rob Moore, and on the show we have the King of Progressive Rock.

It is official Google it. Stephen Wilson is the most famous non-famous musician ever, and we talk about everything.

We talk about the music industry, about radiohead, about muse, about co-play.

Have the music industry has radically changed over the last 30 years.

Have Stephen Wilson is not interested in making money.

It surprised me that Stephen holds nothing about talking about radiohead, muse, Chris Martin and co-play.

He talks about why he left the band porky pine tree, why he reformed and the uncertain future of pop music.

Oh, and I'm a massive fan, so you probably see a side to me you've not seen before.

Stephen, are you the most underrated musician ever?

I think I come from a tradition of people that have operated outside of the mainstream.

And kind of reveled in that, so in the sense that if you exist outside of the mainstream,

then you're not beholden to this kind of issue and problem of coming up with hits.

I don't have any hits.

One of the reasons I'm fortunate when I go on tour with my band with this porky pine tree, one of my solo tours,

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