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🗓️ 6 October 2025
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Steven Pinker joins to discuss his new book, When Everyone Knows That Everyone Knows: Common Knowledge and the Mysteries of Money, Power, and Everyday Life, exploring how shared awareness coordinates everything from markets to manners. He traces spirals of silence, costly signals, and why a single public moment can flip private hunches into history.
Also: the sentencing in the intended assassination of Justice Brett Kavanaugh — what the court record shows about Nicholas (Sophie) Roske's change of mind, and why eight years can be both just and long.
And in the Spiel: the Supreme Court's new term, and an un-panicked look at Trump's shadow-docket "wins," what the justices actually stayed, and why.
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| 0:00.0 | It's Monday, October 6th, 2025 from Peachfish Productions. |
| 0:07.2 | It's The Gist. |
| 0:08.2 | I'm Mike Peska, headline NBC, woman sentenced to eight years for attempting to assassinate |
| 0:13.4 | Brett Kavanaugh. |
| 0:15.0 | Other headlines from other sources say, California resident gets over eight years in prison |
| 0:20.2 | for attempting to assassinate justice |
| 0:21.9 | Kavanaugh. That's ABC going local. Washington Post goes conspirator, Kavanaugh assassination |
| 0:28.1 | plotter sentenced to eight years in prison. Not much of a plot. Got to the house, backed off. |
| 0:34.5 | Politico goes aspirational. Would be Kavanaugh assassin sentenced to over eight years in prison. |
| 0:40.8 | Risks confusing the reader that this is a Brett Kavanaugh cosplayer. Stephen Miller and others went |
| 0:47.1 | nuts, not conspiratorial. They didn't go aspirational. They just went nuts because the would-be |
| 0:52.7 | California assassination plotting woman was |
| 0:56.0 | inarguably only three of those four things. |
| 0:59.4 | If you're saying, wait a minute, I remember the guy who tried to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh. |
| 1:03.2 | That's this woman. |
| 1:05.1 | The New York Times tells it pretty well, right up top. |
| 1:08.5 | Ms. Roski, 29, was charged under her legal name Nicholas J. Roski |
| 1:12.9 | in September, her attorney, September. There's a couple weeks ago, her attorney's disclosed |
| 1:16.8 | to the court that she's transgender and now uses the name Sophie. But here is NBC's on-air report |
| 1:21.9 | of the sentencing. The woman who plotted to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh was |
| 1:27.0 | sentenced to |
| 1:27.6 | eight years in prison on Friday. Sophie Rowski was arrested near Kavanaugh's Washington home in June |
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