When we're younger, we're predominantly about the seeking system and the play system. We're

trying to figure out who we are in the world, go out, what are we going to do? What are we going

to get now? We're going to play our way there. And then at a certain point, roughly around 30 or

whatever, we start getting the stuff we want. Have the family. You've got the job. You've got,

you start having stuff to lose. Maybe I even be the stuff you really want,. You've got the job. You've got, you start having stuff to lose.

Maybe I even be the stuff you really want, but you've got stuff that you want to protect and you want to

convince. Once that happens, our mindset shifts and we start to develop this mindset of old. It's not,

we're not thinking, oh, I'm old. We're thinking, oh, I got to take care of my family.

Oh, I got to hold on to this job.

That's what we're thinking.

But what it does to us mentally is that's where I think that's where like that mental aging process starts.

That was Stephen Kotler, you guys.

Dear friend, been on the show a couple times.

If you are new to his work, you have to check it out.

In this particular episode, I remind y'all that we have had some conversations in the

past, mostly around flow and creativity.

And I think flow has sufficiently entered the contemporary vocabulary,

that state where everything just feels great. It's happening for you. You're not aware of time

and space. You're totally absorbed in what you're doing. Your attention's focus. You're feeling

good. And the results are the best. So Stephen has written more in the

contemporary setting about that stuff than anybody else takes a lot of the concepts from a chap

named Miha, Chick sent Mihai, who has written, developed the concept of flow and named it.

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