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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Steven Kotler: Flow, Ecstasy, and Adult Development

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 29 May 2018

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Steven Kotler is a journalist, New York Times bestselling author, and the director of research for the Flow Genome Project. His many books include Tomorrowland, Abundance, A Small Furry Prayer, and Stealing Fire. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Tami Simon talks with Steven about his interest in "flow states"—those states of consciousness in which we act largely without thought, purely in the moment, and at the peak of our abilities. Steven draws upon his personal experience of healing from Lyme disease to illustrate the many beneficial ways these states can be harnessed. Tami and Steven discuss the steps necessary to achieve a flow state, as well as how these experiences fit into the "ecstatic spectrum" of states characterized by selflessness, timelessness, and lack of ego. Finally, they speak on the tricky proposition of using psychedelics to induce a flow state and whether there are better alternatives—especially in the treatment of psychiatric conditions such as PTSD. (58 minutes)

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This program is brought to you by Sounds True.com.

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At sounds true.com, you can find hundreds of downloadable audio learning programs,

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plus books, music, videos, and online courses, and events.

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At sounds true.com, we think of ourselves

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as a trusted partner on the spiritual journey,

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offering diverse, in-depth, and life-changing wisdom.

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Sounds True.com, many voices, one journey. You're listening to Insights at the Edge. Today my guest is Stephen Kotler. Stephen Kotler is a New York

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Times best-selling author, an award-winning journalist, and the co-founder, director of research

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for the Flow Genome Project. He's one of the world's leading

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experts on high performance. He's also the author of eight books, including The Rise of Superman, Tomorrowland, Bold, Abundance, and a small

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furry prayer.

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In his most recent book, Stealing Fire, how Silicon Valley, the

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Navy SEALs and Navaric scientists are revolutionizing the way we live and work,

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he shares how these highly successful groups are harnessing

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flow states along with rare and controversial altered states of consciousness for higher performance and to

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solve critical challenges. In this episode of Insights at the Edge, Stephen and I

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spoke about how he used flow to bring him back to health after Lyme's disease.

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We also talked about the four phases of flow,

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struggle, release, the flow state itself,

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and then recovery,

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and what is required in each phase of the process.

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Also, we talked about what Stephen calls

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