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This is Design Matters with Debbie Millman from Design Observer.com.

This year is the 10th anniversary of the podcast, 10 years of designers and other creative types talking about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about.

On this program, Deputy Milman talks with Stephen Heller. If I were to take something that was from the 19th century, I would

take elements of it that spoke to me and then transform it into something that had some relevance

to the times it was created in. Here's Debbie Milman. Stephen Heller is the closest thing to a regular on design matters.

He's been on the show every year since we started this podcast.

That means this is the 10th time he's been a guest on design matters.

And each time, he's taught me something new and utterly fascinating about the history, practice, and culture of graphic design.

This won't surprise anyone who knows anything about Stephen Heller, but he currently has several new books out, and it's still only spring.

We're here today to talk about one of the new books I'm most excited about,

Graphic Style Lab, develop your own style with 50 hands-on exercises.

Stephen Heller, thank you for taking a break from your writing and your blog and your classroom duties

and joining me once again on design matters.

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