if you argue for your limitations you get to keep them but if you agree with God

about your potential you get to grow into it.

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to help bring others into the leadership community. All right. Today I am interviewing one of my long time friends, Pastor Stephen Fertick, who is the

founding lead pastor of Elevation Church, one of the greatest communicators on the planet.

He is a New York Times best-selling author.

He has a songwriter.

Elevation worship tours all over the nation

and people come and fill stadiums really around the country

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