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ποΈ 8 January 2026
β±οΈ 51 minutes
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This week on The Upload, host Brooke Taylor and co-host Pastor Mark Evans sit down with one of the most influential voices in Christian music, Steven Curtis Chapman, for a deeply personal and faith-filled conversation about transformation, tragedy, and the sustaining presence of God.
Steven takes listeners back to the very beginning of his faith journey, growing up in what he describes as a “little crazy” home marked by conflict, broken examples, and hardship. He shares how, as a young boy in Paducah, Kentucky, he witnessed a miraculous shift in his family during a revival at their Baptist church — a moment that forever changed the trajectory of his parents’ lives and planted the first seeds of his own faith. About a year later, a single verse from Revelation “I stand at the door and knock” became the moment Steven says Jesus knocked on the door of his heart, beginning a lifelong walk with God.
The conversation turns to one of the most painful chapters of Steven’s life: the tragic loss of his youngest daughter, Maria Sue. With honesty and grace, Steven opens up about how his family navigated unimaginable grief, how the shortest verse in Scripture “Jesus wept” took on profound new meaning, and how God met them in their sorrow rather than abandoning them in it. He reflects on how the Lord has faithfully sustained his family and how Maria’s life and legacy continue through their work with Show Hope.
Steven Curtis Chapman reminds us that faith is not the absence of pain, but the presence of God in the middle of it. This episode is for anyone who has wrestled with loss, questioned God in suffering, or needed reassurance that Jesus still draws near in our deepest grief.
π§ Listen in for a powerful testimony of faith refined by fire, hope anchored in eternity, and the God who walks with us through it all.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.4 | Hey, I'm Stephen Curtis Chapman. |
| 0:05.9 | I just would take my daughter back if I had the option. |
| 0:08.4 | You hobble with that reality. |
| 0:10.3 | You experience God in it. |
| 0:11.5 | You experience healing in it. |
| 0:12.8 | And it's the already and it's the not yet. |
| 0:14.4 | You're still waiting for the ultimate wiping of every tear from your eyes. |
| 0:18.2 | And this is the upload. |
| 0:22.0 | We're very grateful that you're joining us on the upload today. |
| 0:25.2 | Stephen Curtis Chapman is here. |
| 0:27.4 | And I just want to open by saying, you know, you've written, you've sung about faith for decades. |
| 0:31.8 | You strip it all down beyond music, beyond all of the awards, beyond all of that. |
| 0:36.7 | What does the word faith mean to you today? |
| 0:39.3 | Wow, good question. |
| 0:42.4 | I mean, the word faith, first word that comes to mind, I guess, |
| 0:48.3 | if this is a word association game or quiz, is survival. |
| 0:56.0 | You know, I mean, faith is the only way that I know we survive, you know, this world, |
| 1:05.7 | fallen world that we are in. |
| 1:08.0 | Jesus says in this world, you will have trouble, you know, and all of us know that |
| 1:12.6 | at our own different, you know, different degrees and different levels of that. The longer we live, |
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