Steven C. Hayes on Developing Psychological Flexibility

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Eric Zimmer, The One You Feed

Buddhism, Mental Health, Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 21 January 2020

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Steven C. Hayes is one of the founders of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and this is his second time on the show. This time, he and Eric discuss his new book, A Liberated Mind: How to Pivot Toward What Matters. Dr. Hayes is a Professor of Psychology at The University of Nevada Reno. He’s the author of 43 books and more than 600 scientific articles. He’s served as the President of the Association for Behavioral and Cognitive Therapy and The Association for Contextual Behavioral Science. He is one of the most cited psychologists in the world. In this episode, Dr. Hayes teaches what psychological flexibility is, how to cultivate it, and the ways in which it can improve your life. Need help with completing your goals in 2020? The One You Feed Transformation Program can help you accomplish your goals this year. But wait – there’s more! The episode is not quite over!! We continue the conversation and you can access this exclusive content right in your podcast player feed. Head over to our Patreon page and pledge to donate just $10 a month. It’s that simple and we’ll give you good stuff as a thank you! In This Interview, Steven C. Hayes and I Discuss Psychological Flexibility and… His book, A Liberated Mind: How to Pivot Toward What Matters Asking “What is the problem we’re trying to solve?” Understanding what you really care about. Take what you’re really struggling with and flip it over, therefore allowing your pain to speak to you The lengths we go to in order to protect ourselves from hurt “Psychological Flexibility” vs “Psychological Rigidity” 6 processes or pivots that promote Psychological Flexibility The masks we put on to try and connect with others and belong in addition to our true belonging Pivoting from cognitive fusion to diffusion Thoughts as ongoing attempts at meaning-making The ability to think multiple things and be guided by what is useful Living according to your values as well as the qualities of being and doing Response Ability – deciding what this is about for you Accepting what we feel and committing to act according to our values Steven C. Hayes Links: stevenchayes.com Twitter Facebook Feals: Premium CBD delivered to your doorstep to help you manage stress, anxiety, pain, and sleeplessness. Feals CBD is food-grade and every batch is tested so you know you are getting truly premium grade product. Get 50% off your first order with free shipping by becoming a member at www.feals.com/wolf Daily Harvest: Delivers absolutely delicious organic, carefully sourced, chef-created fruit and veggie smoothies, soups, overnight oats, bowls and more. To get $25 off your first box go to www.dailyharvest.com and enter promo code FEED Phlur: Get a luxurious scent made with transparent, clean ingredients. Eric created his own sampler set that you can try! Get this curated sampler set or create your own. Get 20% off your first Phlur sampler set at www.phlur.com/wolf See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	misery is actually our ally because there's energy in there. There's caring in there. There's motivation in there.
0:14.0	Welcome to the one you feed. Throughout time, great thinkers have recognized the importance of the thoughts we have.
0:20.5	Quotes like garbage in garbage out or you are what you think ring true and yet for many of us our thoughts don't strengthen or empower us.
0:30.5	We tend toward negativity self pity jealousy or fear. We see what we don't have instead of what we do. We think things that hold us back and dampen our spirit.
0:41.5	But it's not just about thinking our actions matter. It takes conscious consistent and creative effort to make a life worth living.
0:49.5	This podcast is about how other people keep themselves moving in the right direction. How they feed their good wolf.
1:09.5	Thanks for joining us. Our guest on this episode is Stephen Hayes and this is his second time on the One You Feed Podcast.
1:17.5	He's a professor of psychology at the University of Nevada Reno. Stephen is also the author of 43 books and more than 600 scientific articles.
1:27.5	He served as the president of the Association for Behavioral and Cognitive Therapy and the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science.
1:35.5	He is one of the most cited psychologists in the world. His new book is a liberated mind. How to pivot toward what matters.
1:45.5	Hi Stephen, welcome to the show. Hi, good to be with you again. Again indeed. Yes, one of my favorite interviews was our earlier interview and you have a new book out called a liberated mind.
1:57.5	How to pivot towards what matters. So I'm really excited to jump into that. But let's start like we always do with the parable.
2:05.5	There is a grandfather who's talking with his grandson. He says in life, there are two wolves inside of us that are always a battle. One is a good wolf, which represents things like kindness and bravery and love.
2:17.5	And the other is a bad wolf, which represents things like greed and hatred and fear. And the grandson stops and thinks about it for a second.
2:25.5	And he looks up at his grandfather says, well grandfather, which one wins? And the grandfather says that the one you feed.
2:31.5	So I'd like to start off by asking you what that parable means to you in the work that you do and in your life.
2:37.5	Well, it means a lot. And I think it's becoming clear to me that both of those wolves within have a role. They both have a message for us.
2:47.5	And yes, we want to feed one over the other, but we want to kind of listen to both and find even inside some of those dark places that we go that we're yearning for something that is reflected in the positive places.
3:01.5	I mean, how to take our lives.
3:03.5	Wonderful. Yeah, you're known for being one of the founders of acceptance and commitment therapy, which if I had to summarize and I'm summarizing a lot in a very small amount.
3:15.5	But a big piece of act is not to eliminate negative thought in emotion, but to learn to live with them in a more skillful way and then act sort of in a way that is in accordance with our values.
3:28.5	Yeah, exactly. And that's been about a 40 year journey of both science and clinical practice and extending it out to almost any area that human beings can think of in sports and business and health matters and so forth.
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