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The Lawfare Podcast

Steve Vladeck on Emergency Powers and Coronavirus

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2020

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

What can the president do in a national emergency? What limits what the president can do? What authorizes the president to do all those things he can do in a national emergency? Is the president abusing, misusing, using appropriately, or under-using emergency powers during the coronavirus crisis? And what are the logical end points for how far this could go? For this bonus edition of the Lawfare Podcast, Benjamin Wittes got on the phone with Steve Vladeck to work through these questions and talk about all things presidential emergency powers.

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The Secretary is our to clear a public health emergency,

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which is not the same thing as a national emergency on January 31st.

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And for legal purposes, what that did was that triggered a small number of public health statutes,

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and a small number of sort of bureaucratic and administrative softening of rules

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that would have allowed the government, among other things, to ratchet up, for example,

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experimental drug approval through the FDA to reallocate at least certain funding resources.

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It would have allowed the government, I think, on a plausible reading of the statute

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to dramatically ramp up the production of tests for the coronavirus.

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And so the Secretary's Declaration of a Public Health Emergency actually triggered a bunch of powers

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that the executive branch, at least so far as we know, Ben, did not aggressively utilize, at least at first.

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I'm Benjamin Wittes, and this is the LawFair podcast March 19th, 2020.

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It is a bonus edition.

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Last night, I got on the phone with Steve Latick, who needs no introduction for LawFair listeners,

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to talk about presidential emergency powers, all things presidential emergency powers,

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what can the president do?

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What limits what the president can do?

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