Welcome to the Eric Metaxis show with your host, Eric Mettaxas.

Hello there.

Folks, today, I hardly know where to begin except to say that we are in the midst of an international

tragedy, what's happening in Afghanistan on a number of levels. A lot of friends of mine have

different points of view on it, except everybody agrees that it's a fiasco, that what is happening there will be

called the Biden caliphate. That's kind of where we are. I wanted to bring on an old friend, Dr. Jeff

Myers, he's the president of Summit Ministries, to talk about this. Jeff Myers, welcome.

Thank you, Eric. I'm good to be with you. And since you're an old friend, I can call you Jeff.

Yes. Is Jeff okay or you want Jeffrey or Mr. Myers? Now, listen, so you're in Colorado Springs or

someplace near there.

We are in Manitou Springs. Yeah, it's a little hippie town right at the foot of Pike's Peak, right next to Colorado Springs.

Okay.

Well, let me just ask you, though.

A lot of people don't know what Summit Ministries is.

So we're talking about Afghanistan and Biden and a divided nation, and you have some original polling,

which we've not done on this program before, I don't think.

But tell my audience how you come into the subject to, I mean, what summit is and how you come into the subject of Afghanistan and the divided nation.

Eric, as you know, Summit Ministries is equipping and supporting a rising generation to embrace God's

truth and to champion a biblical worldview. So our programs are two weeks long. Students come here as

they're headed off to the university. And we've started to really be intent on figuring out what

kind of world our students are going into.

What is it really like on the university campus?

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