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Boardroom with Rich Kleiman

Steve Stoute On Kim Kardashian, Beyoncé, Brent Faiyaz, Hailey Bieber, & More

Boardroom with Rich Kleiman

Boardroom Podcast Network

Sports, Business, Entrepreneurship

4.4620 Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In this special edition of Boardroom Talks, Steve Stoute continues his wide-ranging conversation with Rich Kleiman on culture, music, and the new rules of influence in business. From the cultural impact of Kim Kardashian and SKIMS, Beyoncé’s blueprint for ownership and artistry, Rihanna’s empire with Fenty, and Hailey Bieber redefining beauty with Rhode, to Brent Faiyaz’s rise as a “pure artist” operating outside the traditional machine, the conversation explores how today’s biggest names are reshaping what power looks like in entertainment and branding. Stoute and Kleiman also break down the evolving financial model of music streaming, why major labels are starting to function more like indie operations, and how the role of a great CMO has shifted from marketing products to building culture itself.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Is it gonna mad at 15 years from now?

0:03.0

Because if it's relevant 15 years from now,

0:06.0

this world is f***.

0:09.0

Imagine if what's her name the girl from New Jersey, Jersey Shaw?

0:12.0

Snooky. Imagine if she had a clothing line selling out right now.

0:16.0

We have a bigger problem.

0:18.0

Entertainment is fine.

0:20.0

The problem is if it has sustained, it then teaches the next generation what the bar is.

0:26.6

Mediacrity is the new hot.

0:29.6

Artists would ask me to manage him.

0:30.6

I'm like, you think that I'm going to tell my mother that you fired me?

0:34.6

You know how crazy that sounds?

0:36.6

You fucking fire me because you

0:40.1

gained weight or whatever the fucking thing is you decided to shoot me. I love artists and I

0:45.3

respect artists. I also respect the fact that they're tripolar. No one has figured out how to

0:51.4

truly measure cultural impact. Popularity is mistaken for cultural impact.

0:56.6

Skims is cultural impact.

0:58.6

The fact that she's popular and it's popular is not the point.

1:01.8

What's up everybody?

1:02.8

This is Rich Clyman.

1:04.0

And today we are with somebody who's legitimately a friend of mine for over 25 years.

1:09.3

Please welcome the commissioner, Steve Stapp. Thank you for having me on the

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