Very pleased today to be joined by Washington Post columnist, author of the Plumline, Greg Sargent,

by my estimation, one of the best, most astute columnist observers of this moment in American life over the last seven years.

As you know, if you tune into this,

something that I regard as an ongoing event that has taken another mighty turn over this

weekend. Greg Sargent, welcome. Thanks for having me on, Steve. Before going on, what is your initial

reaction to the change in the world that's

occurred since you left work on Friday and returned on Monday? It's different. Yeah, I mean,

obviously absolutely horrifying. The attacks on Israelis are just, you know, contemptible and disgusting disgusting and there really aren't enough words to condemn them. I do hope that the two parties can come together at this time in order to address this crisis in a balanced way without too much politicization creeping into it.

I want to step back out from the American domestic label

and talk about what we're seeing globally play out.

And I can't imagine another instance

where there would be an attack like this, and there would be

marches of support all over the world celebrating the Hamas attack, including in New York City,

sponsored by the Democratic Socialists of America.

Yeah, I mean, it's absolutely horrible. I would point out that, you know, the vast majority of progressives who have been critical of Israel have been very forceful in condemning the attack as well.

So that was, I think, heartening to see and shows that this really has made it very hard for anyone who considers him or herself mainstream in the United States to adopt anything like

the positions you're talking about.

And so when you think about those positions and you think about those protests, what is it

that we're saying?

Is that anti-Semitism of our forefathers stripe that we're seeing manifest itself, assert itself in city squares all over the world.

The idea that the murder Jews would be blamed for their murders is an extraordinary sentiment,

but one that can't be detached from the whole sweep of history and the specter of Jew hatred

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