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Steve Phillips is the author of Brown is the New White

How the Demographic Revolution has created a new American majority.

This book was my political Bible in the run-up to the 2016 election,

but with Donald Trump in the White House,

is that new majority even real?

Absolutely, says Phillips. And completely lost the history is that that

is the majority that gave Hillary Clinton 3 million more votes than Donald Trump in 2016.

Phillips breaks it all down, the intensity gap between Trump voters and Democratic voters,

and how the inability of the largely white Democratic leadership to inspire people of color,

the base of the party is a problem staring

the Democratic Party dead in the face.

Steve Phillips, thanks very much for being on the podcast.

Thanks for having me on.

And this is an auspicious moment because this is your first time on the podcast.

But I've been talking about you for years now, how many years? Two years in the book first came out.

Right, and the book we're talking about, in the book I've been writing about, the book I've been talking

about for two years is called Brown is the New White,

how the demographic revolution has created a new American majority.

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