Everything Universe is turning, including you, if you don't like where you are, you can always initiate a new turn.

Which is true in your career, it's true in our politics, it's true in economics, it's true in your personal life, there's a real empowerment to that.

This is the Daily Signal Podcast for Friday, September 29th. I'm Rob Blueey, and those were the words of Steve McKee.

He is the author of a new book called Turns, where business is won and lost. We talk about his own life's turns and how he'd advocated the ups and downs as an innovative small business owner in the marketing field.

All of us encounter twists and turns every day, whether in our personal lives or at work.

McKee's book offers a guide for which turns to take to live a better life.

Before we get to today's interview, let me tell you about another Great Heritage Foundation podcast, Scotus 101.

It's a podcast where you will get a breakdown of the top cases in the highest court in the land, here from some of the greatest legal minds and get a healthy dose of Supreme Court trivia.

Want to listen? You can find Scotus 101 wherever you get your podcasts, or just head to heritage.org slash podcasts.

We are joined in studio today by Steve McKee. He's the co-founder of McKee Wallwork, a marketing agency in New Mexico, and the author of several excellent books, including his latest turns, where business is won and lost.

Steve, thanks for being here today. Thanks for having me.

It's not too often that we have folks from New Mexico in here at the Heritage Foundation studio with us. What's the mood in Elbucharque these days?

These days, the mood is kind of cranky. We've had a big overreach by our overreaching governor.

It's been national news, so probably everybody knows about it. We're trying to suspend the Second Amendment with a public health order.

And I'm actually very proud of my fellow citizens because the local sheriff says I'm not going to enforce it. The Democrat Attorney General says I'm not going to defend it.

And nobody really seems to be complying. So it's a little bit cranky.

It's interesting. We have covered it at the Daily Signal, our Second Amendment expert here at the Heritage Foundation, Amy Swerer, obviously has paid close attention to this as she does all matters involving gun rights.

And certainly something to keep a close eye on. This is one of those issues that we know that the left is concentrating a lot of attention on.

We've seen it in Tennessee and other states as well. So thank you for that perspective.

But we're here to talk about your new book, but I always like to hear a little bit more about the author's life before we delve into the heavy content.

So you have had quite a journey in your own life. You've had many turns to use a phrase on the title of your book.

And I'd like you to share with our audience how you got to the point you are today.

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