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This is Words Matter with Elise Jordan and Steve Schmidt.

Welcome to Words Matter, I'm Elise Jordan along with Steve Schmidt.

Our goal is to promote objective reality.

As a wise man once said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not their own facts.

Their tech power and word tech consequences.

Okay, I'm very excited today because we have Steve Kornaki here to talk about his amazing

new book The Red and the Blue.

And Steve, I've got to tell you, reading this book is just nostalgic for me because it's

kind of like my childhood growing up with my grandparents and my dad always obsessing

over politics and seeing it through their lens of being staunch, Reagan supporters and

then voting for HW Bush and then some of the family split and voted for Perot and had

very strong feelings about Bill Clinton who is in neighboring Arkansas.

So it has been interesting to finally study it and to have a little separation.

And I'm just so excited that we have you in here.

Oh, thank you.

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