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After 6 o'clock, whatever you miss. John Cobalt's show On Dem are on every day from three to six after six o'clock, whatever you miss, John Cobalt Show on demand on the IHeart app. And we are live on YouTube. And if you go to YouTube, you'll see there's another man on the screen. And that's Steve Hilton, who is one of the leading candidates for a governor here in California, a Republican. He's either number one or number two in all the polls,

and we're just a few days away. Turnout is actually kind of light on the mail-in ballots,

and so a lot of people are going to be showing up on Tuesday more than usual. I guess there

are a lot of undecided people. Anyway, we're live on YouTube, and to subscribe or become a member,

go to YouTube.com slash at John Cobalt Show. And you can go watch us now and even participate in the group chat running along the side of the screen. Steve Hilton, I'm so happy to finally have you in studio. I know. Amazing. It feels like we'd like old friends. I know. We've talked so many times. We've never actually met in person. I know. We talked so many times on the phone. And it's good to have you here. So I want to get

right to it. Last hour we were talking about Spencer Pratt and how there's a poll that has

virtually tied with ramen and Bass. But there's one pollster that the California Post interview

he said, no, Pratt's doing a lot better than that in the internal polls for the, for the candidates, because the traditional polls, they don't poll the kind of candidate, the kind of voters who go for Pratt, people who don't vote often, people who don't answer the phone or respond to an email because they're just not engaged

in politics that way. And I've got to believe, while you're doing very well, there's got to be

a certain amount of that with you too. That's a lot of people discussed it and are voting and

they usually don't really vote, especially in a primary. And they may not say they're voting

for a Republican. That's the other thing in my race for governor.

It is a partisan race.

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