Steve Gallant - “Islamists Run The Prisons” Former Inmate Speaks Out

The Winston Marshall Show

Winston Marshall

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4.8 • 658 Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2026

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Winston Marshall Show, I sit down with former prisoner and author Steve Gallant for a remarkable conversation on crime, redemption, and the realities of life inside Britain’s prison system, where he gives insight into the Islamist takeover of prisons and why it has become a dominant force in the UK.

The conversation explores the rise of Islamist gangs inside prisons, the role of conversion, power structures among inmates, and why authorities have struggled to maintain control. We discuss how ideology, identity, and group dynamics shape prison life, and why some inmates are drawn into extremist networks.

We also examine rehabilitation, the failures and successes of the prison system, and the possibility of genuine change. We discuss education behind bars, restorative justice, and why some prisoners find a path towards redemption, while others remain trapped in cycles of violence.

We also revisit Steve’s role in helping to stop the Fishmongers’ Hall terror attack, the public reaction to his actions, and the debate over early release, forgiveness, and second chances.

A powerful and deeply human conversation about accountability, extremism, redemption, and whether people can truly change.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction

04:30 The Day Of The Fishmongers’ Hall Attack

06:50 Confronting The Attacker

09:20 Fighting Back: What Actually Happened

12:00 Chaos Inside The Hall

17:00 The Moments After

19:30 Police Response & Immediate Aftermath

22:00 Public Reaction & Media Narrative

27:30 Reflection On The Attack & What It Means

29:58 Sentenced To Life: Steve’s Original Crime

33:04 Entering Prison: First Experiences

36:00 Violence, Survival & Prison Culture

39:03 The Rise Of Islamist Gangs Inside Prison

42:00 How Islamist Groups Organise & Recruit

48:11 Why Guards Struggle To Maintain Authority

54:00 Radicalisation Inside The Prison System

57:43 Why Some Prisoners Convert In Jail

01:00:00 Can The System Actually Control This?

01:06:00 Why Some Prisoners Never Change

01:18:00 Final Reflections

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Winston Marshall Show with me, Winston Marshall.
0:06.5	I sat down with Steve Galant.
0:08.8	Now, you might not know his name, but he is a national hero here in Britain, despite that.
0:14.8	He is the man famous for taking a narwhal tusk onto the London Bridge to take down the Islamist terrorist Usman Khan in 2019.
0:26.6	We looked at Steve's life in prison before that.
0:30.5	That was his first day out of prison.
0:33.6	It was the first time he used violence since his conviction for murder in 2005, and despite his
0:42.8	vow never to be violent again. We looked at time in prison. We looked at how Islamists and Islamist
0:51.1	gangs have taken control of British prisons and what might be done about that.
1:00.0	We also discuss in an extended conversation on our substack at Winston-martial.com.uk, the death penalty,
1:07.2	whether or not it would be a good thing for Britain.
1:13.1	That, and by the way, his answer is quite surprising,
1:18.3	and much more, all at winston-martial.com.ukau, our substack.
1:22.2	But without further ado, Steve Galant.
1:25.1	Steve Galant, welcome to the show.
1:27.5	I have to say, I'm quite honored to have you on.
1:34.9	It's rare that I read a book back to front in one sitting, as I did with yours, The Road to London Bridge.
1:40.3	And you are actually somewhat of a household name without being a household name.
1:49.0	You are Narwhal Tuskman, because because famously on your first day of release, having served 14 years of a life sentence, your first day out, I believe, it wasn't the end of the sentence.
1:53.1	That's right. You, having made a vow never to be violent again, ended up face to face with the Islamist terrorist Usman Khan on London Bridge.
2:08.6	This is November 29th, 2019. And instead of sitting on your hands, you faced him off.
2:17.1	Your story, which I want to get into, is one of Islamism in the past. instead of sitting on your hands, you faced him off.
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