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All righty, Pastor Mark Trisclair, big, big, big day.

I can't believe we're finally there.

I'll just be excited not to be getting

tax from Donald Trump asking me for $5 for a dark mega hat. Apparently, he really needs that $5,

and apparently he's got a lot of those hats. I'm sure it's him directly. And so I'm really honored

today to have a brother in Christ and a friend, Steve Deis,

and Steve, I wanted to, we're going to get into a bunch of things.

You know, I want to get into what do you think the election reveals about the church?

What are you seeing as you look at the poll data as an expert?

Anything you would share with believers?

Anything that you're seeing going on spiritually, and what you would say to those evangelical leaders who encourage

people to abstain from the voting process. I want to get into all of that and more and whatever

you want to get into in just a moment. But I wanted to start by saying thank you. And I feel I was praying

for you and your family today. And I just wanted to say thank you. I am new to the political

space. I've always had opinions. I don't have anywhere near your level of knowledge. But I just felt

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