From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barrow. This is the Daily.

From the outside, the political movement created by Donald Trump has never seemed more empowered or invulnerable than it does right now.

Except to the man who helped get Trump elected in the first place,

Steve Bannon, who sees threats to the movement and betrayals of it at almost every turn,

whether it's bombing Iran or allowing tech billionaires to advise the president.

Today, my colleague Jeremy Peters talks to Bannon about the nature of those threats

and why in Bannon's mind, the future of the Maga movement depends on defeating them.

It's Tuesday, July 1st.

Jeremy W. Peters.

Michael.

You don't know my middle initial, do you?

It starts with a C.

Yeah, that's right.

Christopher.

Yes.

Whoa, I was mistaken.

I mean, we've known each other for more, like 20 years.

We have.

So, Jeremy, you are a student of the American political right, the conservative movement, the rise of Donald Trump within it.

You have reported on that world for years.

You even wrote a book about it a few years back.

Can you describe what has been happening within that world over the past couple of weeks?

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