Stepping Into the Metaverse — with Dr. Courtney Cogburn and Prof. Jeremy Bailenson

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🗓️ 6 October 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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The next frontier of the internet is: the metaverse. How might we learn from our experience with social media, in order to design a humane metaverse? This week on Your Undivided Attention, we talk with two pioneers who are thinking critically about the development of the metaverse — Dr. Courtney Cogburn and Professor Jeremy Bailenson.

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0:00.0	Today, on your undivided attention, we're stepping into the Metaverse.
0:04.8	At the moment, the Metaverse is a series of disconnected virtual reality spaces where people
0:10.4	hang out with friends, play games, try extreme sports, or pretend to be unicorns.
0:16.8	Mark Zuckerberg believes that in the future, a billion people will spend their money and
0:21.7	time in the Metaverse every day, and he's bet the future of his company on it.
0:27.5	To prepare for today's conversation, our executive producer Stephanie Lepp and I spent
0:31.2	time inside of virtual reality experience designed by our two guests, Dr. Courtney Cogburn
0:36.4	and Professor Jeremy Balanson.
0:38.4	We want to make sure that you're looking through the center of these lenses here, so it's
0:43.0	blurry just adjusted vertically on your face and that should help clear things up.
0:47.4	Together, Courtney and Jeremy created a thousand cut journey, an experience that puts you
0:52.2	inside the body of a young black man, Michael Sterling, as he experiences racism over the
0:57.6	course of his life.
0:59.2	Okay, putting on the hand controllers, we're in a moment of opportunity.
1:05.6	As you'll hear Courtney say in our conversation, the Metaverse is still somewhat of a blank slate,
1:10.6	no one owns it, and no one governs it.
1:13.4	How might we learn from our experience with social media and anticipate the harms of
1:17.2	the Metaverse before they arise?
1:20.0	What would it look like to design a humane Metaverse that respects our attention, that improves
1:24.7	our well-being in relationships, and strengthens our democracy?
1:29.2	I'm Tristan Harris, and I'm Azar Askin.
1:31.9	And this is your divided attention, the podcast from the Center for Humane Technology.
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