Stepping Back Won’t Save Us with Andrew Mclennan
The Heidi St. John Podcast
Heidi St. John
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🗓️ 25 March 2026
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
There’s a growing belief that if America just pulls back, we’ll somehow find peace—but history says otherwise. Today I’m talking about why retreat creates a vacuum, what fills it, and why our influence still matters. Andrew Mclennan joins me with a perspective from outside the U.S. that might just wake you up.
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| 0:00.0 | There's a growing idea in our culture that America should shrink back and mind her own business |
| 0:05.1 | and disengage from the world stage, as if what happens beyond our borders has no bearing |
| 0:10.5 | on what happens within them. |
| 0:12.2 | It sounds simple and it sounds humble and it sounds America first, but it's not wise and it's |
| 0:18.6 | not true. |
| 0:19.2 | This is the Heidi St. John podcast. |
| 0:20.5 | I'm going to tackle America's |
| 0:22.1 | role in the world today. And I'm going to be joined a little bit later by my friend Andrew McLennon. |
| 0:27.1 | He's a radio host on Australia's only nationwide Christian station. He's got a lot to say about |
| 0:33.3 | the role of America in the world. And I think you're going to really be blessed by what he has to say. |
| 0:37.8 | And in fact, when I finished this interview with Andrew, I told him, I said, man, I think you |
| 0:42.9 | are actually here today for such a time as this. If you're discouraged by what you see going on |
| 0:47.8 | in the United States right now and the division that clearly the enemy is orchestrating, |
| 0:53.2 | this podcast is for you. This is the Heidi |
| 0:55.2 | St. John podcast. Stick around. I think you're going to be encouraged. All right, there's a lot of people right now out in the blogosphere on the |
| 1:19.1 | codpass bill and all over the United States talking about our role in Israel and whether |
| 1:25.1 | or not we should have gone to Iran. Obviously, you guys know my, my view on that. |
| 1:31.2 | I'll talk about that more in just a minute. But I want to start today by talking about our role in |
| 1:36.0 | the world because the reality is the United States has always had a role to play in the world. |
| 1:41.9 | You're going to find out more about that in just a few minutes from Andrew as he joins us from Australia. And our role in the world has been played out not |
| 1:49.8 | because we are better than other nations, but because we have been uniquely positioned, |
| 1:55.2 | blessed with resources, with influence, and with the foundation that is rooted in the understanding that our rights |
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