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When news broke earlier this year that baby KJ, a newborn in Philadelphia,

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But there's a gripping tale of discovery behind this accomplishment and its creators.

I'm Evan Ratliff, and together with biographer Walter

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change the trajectory of humanity. Listen to Aunt CRISPR, the story of Jennifer Dowdna with Walter

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You know, I've never dated anybody like that or even like been around a guy who was

shorter that had that sort of mentality.

But I did a show in New York this past weekend and there was a guy like in the front.

And he was as soon as I said, I came out talking about short men.

And as soon as I, he like was not happy.

Yeah.

And he was heckling me a little bit. And his girlfriend was like, but he's 5-8. I was like, girl, no, he's not. No, he's not. That's a liar-sized. And you know it was a liar-size. That's a liar-size. Right. Yeah. And why you yell that out anyway?

I only 5-8 exist.

It might not.

It really might not. Right. And why you yell that out anyway? Only 5-8 exists.

It might not. It really might not.

I don't think that's an actual number. I think you're either 5-7 or 5-9 and one of those you're spinning. That's like how a lot of structures don't have a 13th floor.

Oh, yeah.

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