Hey everyone. Welcome once again to another installment in Conversations that Matter Podcast and

he serves John Harris as always and I have a special guest I'm excited to I guess

not really introduced because Stephen's been on the program before but for those who

haven't heard those episodes,

we have Stephen Wolf with us today who just released this book here, The Case for Christian Nationalism,

and it's actually kind of a long book. I read the whole thing because I really, it was actually very enjoyable, but I wanted to also understand it to the best of my ability so I can ask Stephen some good questions.

And some of you have also submitted some questions

from Patreon and so we'll see how many of those we get to but Stephen thank you so much for

being willing to talk about this and give some of your time to the audience here.

Yeah, I mean, thanks for having me on.

I appreciate it.

My pleasure.

This is my third or fourth time?

I think, yeah, third.

It's always fun to come on the show.

Yeah, thank you. Hey, man, no, it is your fourth. I think you're right, because I think you did one solo and then two with Thomas and somehow your solo again.

But I'm going to ask you the most generic question that anyone asks authors why did you write this book?

Yeah, it's funny. That's always the first question. It's always. You have to

Yeah, so I mean the funny thing it was I was making a joke actually last night because I was tweeting doing a late night tweeting and I was outside smoking

Which I sometimes do to think and contemplate and all that and He's president taking it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, oh, and we just

alienate half the audience. The fundamentalist.

No, but, no, but I was actually just tweeting one day a few years ago and a couple of years ago,

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