Welcome once again to the Conversations that Matter podcast. I'm your host

John Harris with a guest we've had on before Stephen Wolf. We're going to talk

today again about his book,

the case for Christian nationalism.

But it's going to be a little different

than the last videos that we did on this,

where we just went over the book and I asked questions

and we tried to figure out what the book was saying and this

is different because the book's now been out for a few months and a number of reviews have come in.

In fact some of you have sent me some of these reviews and I knew

Stephen was going to be working on crafting some rebuttals and I want to give him

the opportunity on this podcast since not all of you are going to go read these

reviews or Stephen's rebuttal to let him speak to this and the response, the reception,

and some of the people who are against what he's saying what is their argument why does he disagree and so I appreciate you giving me your time

Stephen welcome to the podcast once again. Yeah, thanks for having me on

So how's it been?

How's the reception to your book?

It's one of those, uh, it's one of those strange things where it's the reception on the official

evangelical outlets has been largely negative except for a couple people or a few

people saying positive things, which they all got beat up for it to say

something positive about the book. But yeah, it's one of those weird things where I'm not, I mean usually

the evangelical kind of elite go after people who are

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