Welcome to the Win Make Give podcast.

It's Chad Heim's here.

Ben Kinney somewhere and Bob Stewart, you, I know where you are.

How are you doing today, Bob?

I'm going to rope that guy back into this thing one day.

One day, we will tie him to a chair and make him record so we can hear what's going on. Forget him. He tricked us. He tricked us. He did like two years, I think. Those were the COVID years though, I guess, here in Washington State. You couldn't go anywhere to do anything. So he was like, you guys come hang out with me. I think he got us good. Yeah, he got us good. Yeah, I think he did. And we're still going,

and we're still going for you, audience. Hey, check out winemakegiv.com. You can find out all the

shows we have. Bob, I know these episodes don't drop like the day after we record them.

Yet a huge shout out to one of Winmake Gives own, and that's's Brian Gubernik with his TEDx talk that he just

did. Folks, check it out. Go to the website. We have links there. Go to search for Brian

Gubernik, Ted talk. Chat, I saw Brian give that a similar talk. I't know a year and a half ago at would make

give and I you like his that talk and just like kind of the vision of him on stage giving it it

comes into my thinking when I'm sitting sometimes when I'm here at home and the boys come up and

they're like dad can we go outside play basketball or whatever and I want I'm tired I sometimes when I'm here at home and the boys come up and they're like, Dad, can we go outside? I play basketball or whatever. And I want, I'm tired. I want to be like, no, like you guys go, right? I'll just all open the window, let's from the window or whatever. And his, his like reminder that I don't have that much time with my boys, right? It drives me to get my ass off the couch. Yep. It's an excellent, excellent discussion. Absolutely. And we're going to have an excellent discussion today. Can I, can I tell you some? And I'm admitting this to him. I'm admitting this to him. I kind of mentioned it to you earlier. Some, look, so, and Stephen knows the episodes. Yeah, so you, Stephen knows this, like, because he's on a podcast tour right now, right? And when you get big enough, they, they bring you out the tour, you come, you sit in the studio, and we're not good looking enough, Chad, to put us on cameras. Speak for yourself.

I'm not good looking enough to be on camera.

That's why we made this decision.

So we have people that reach out to us now.

The win-making and pocket, I got a point where more than just your mom and I,

or my mom and your mom listen, right?

We got a couple aunts, I think, that are now listening.

So people reach out to us and say, hey, we've got guests. And sometimes when I see like the business coach, the motivational guy, I'm like, here we go, right? So, Stephen, I'm just telling you, man, that was what my thinking was last night. I was literally like, I'm going to make Chad do this one. I want these things. But I went and listened to it. So I pulled up your Instagram this morning, Stephen, because I'm like, all right, let me just, let me see what we can ask this guy about. And now I'm like, let's go. I want to talk to this guy. Like, he's, he's actually good. Bob Stewart, quiet down. So we can welcome to the Win Make Give podcast. Our guest today, Stephen, thank you for joining us.

What's up, guys? Dude, I'm so excited to see you guys. And also really excited to know that I

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